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Post by bravo12 on Nov 11, 2008 9:02:24 GMT -5
OK, back on topic. I had an epiphany: for those cheapo's on NASIOC, I could offer a cheap version for under $10 that would just be the DVD disk in a sleeve; no bookshelf case with label, no full-color printed label on the disk, no insert. That would mean my costs would only be a blank DVD-R, a paper sleeve, and standard USPS shipping. That would probably cost me under $4 each total, so each DVD sold like this would still bring in $6 for the charity. It wouldn't be any extra work (aside from another PayPal button on my web page), and it might get more folks to buy the DVD and spread the word or make a contribution. Another idea is a full-time store (along the lines of Cafepress), to generate donations and hype the event all year long. T-shirts, decals, the DVDs of course, maybe picture-books of the event. I don't want to make this thing into anything more than you guys want it to be, but it might be worth discussing. For the record, if I do sell the DVDs after this year's event, I'll be keeping meticulous records on payments, costs, and actual profits, so there's no illusion that I'm making money for myself off of this - that's not my intention. Also, I don't know if the executive committee is keeping books on the entire event - if you are, I'll keep you guys updated with my records as needed. I like making videos, and I would like to make money on it eventually (at least enough to cover my trips), without quitting my current career and going into broadcasting, so I need the practice and experience to hone my hobby-skills a bit. Also, it's another way for me to contribute to the cause without going broke, by donating my time. And with my brother helping me out this year, it's a way for me to bond with him by working together on a project. This event just rocks!
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Post by bat1161 on Nov 13, 2008 17:39:29 GMT -5
I like the idea of the DVD- a lot goes on during these rides and it would be great to have it to relive the drives. You can count me in!
Mark
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Post by blaxtrax on Nov 13, 2008 17:53:03 GMT -5
I already responded on NASIOC, but I'd definetly take one, if not two...
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Post by growlingboxer on Nov 18, 2008 11:17:45 GMT -5
i would buy the DVD/t-shirt/sweatshirt combo...mike/ted we probably need sweatshirts this year...after all, it is damn cold on this trip!
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Post by toddlamp on Nov 20, 2008 17:41:26 GMT -5
I like the ide aof a t-shirt, but I definitely think you'll need at least one or two OTHER filmers. While having one is better than nothing, getting it from multiple angles and situations is better. Plus it would allow you to have some fun. You're not going to want to be behind a camera the whole time.
And I highly recommend an HD camcorder. While the DVD doesn't have to be in HD it will give you a much better quality to work with to dowgrade to DVD quality.
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Post by fbomb on Nov 21, 2008 13:03:55 GMT -5
Maybe anybody with a cam should bring it and shoot. The more footage the better. Except maybe Ted's, evidence might not work in his favor, sh*t or mine for that matter. I have a Apitek HD cam but the only format it records in is .mov. I know premier can take that but I don't know what software Bravo is using. I'll bring it anyway. The offer of me buying the media is still open. I can easily pick up a spindle of whatever DVD flavor you want... ok, maybe not lightscribe. Those bastards are expensive.
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Post by toddlamp on Nov 21, 2008 13:39:02 GMT -5
Are there any really inexpensive camcorders that shoot HD clips? I've seen some that went for ~$100 but I can't remember where.
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Post by fbomb on Nov 21, 2008 16:38:32 GMT -5
That's the one I have. the cam was about $125. I think Ted has one also. Check www.aiptek.com/ I picked mine up at Target.
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Post by toddlamp on Nov 21, 2008 17:08:51 GMT -5
That's the one I have. the cam was about $125. I think Ted has one also. Check www.aiptek.com/ I picked mine up at Target. How's the quality?
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Post by bravo12 on Nov 21, 2008 17:40:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure I can edit .mov files. Working OT now, I'll check when I get home. The camera I'm looking at is about $600 and packed with features, including slo-mo (up to 240fps capture), true 1080p resolution, HDD storage and SD card storage.
Although, I've made the decision that I'm only going to play around with the camera this trip, to get a feel for how I want to do it properly next time. I'll still make a list of stuff I want to capture, and do my best to get that stuff, but I think a full-on DVD will have to wait. I should get plenty to put together a little 5-minute overview of the whole thing, along with some background on the origins of the event.
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Post by nhsilversti on Nov 21, 2008 17:57:40 GMT -5
That's the one I have. the cam was about $125. I think Ted has one also. Check www.aiptek.com/ I picked mine up at Target. How's the quality? you tell us. www.vimeo.com/nhsilversti check out nhms and mosport
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Post by bravo12 on Nov 21, 2008 18:03:36 GMT -5
What's a "time trail"? You spell like Paisan. It's not playing for me at work. I'll check it out; I still want to get the camera I'm looking at, but one of these might be better for sticking to the windshield or otherwise putting at risk.
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Post by toddlamp on Nov 21, 2008 20:07:59 GMT -5
Wow, that looks pretty good. And I like the solid state idea.
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Post by glanga on Nov 21, 2008 21:33:07 GMT -5
Hey fellas,
I have a miniDV cam also so whatever I or my co-driver film will be yours for the taking to compile in whatever way you see fit!
I'd love to see a DVD especially with some history highlights of this thing.
Cant wait! -Greg
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Post by bravo12 on Dec 9, 2008 10:50:08 GMT -5
Definitely bring a camera if you have one. There is no way one - or even two or three - of us is gonna capture everything on this trip. I'm still not sure I'm gonna do a full-on DVD of this year's event, but more of a test-run so I can better plan one for next year (and definitely one for the 10th annual run the year after that).
Long story short: the more footage I have to work with, the better the final edit will be. Don't worry about resolution this year - bring your old 640x480 miniDV camera if that's all you have - but by the 10th annual event, I want all HD cameras, even if I have to buy several more Aiptek cheapies and pass them out. I might buy my brother one of those cameras for Christmas, and make him bring it with us.
In the meantime, I picked up a few more 8GB SDHC cards for my Aiptek, so that gives me about 4 hours of recording per card. 21GB total between the cards and the internal memory = 11.5 total hours of recording without having to dump the cards. If I bring a laptop and my external 320GB HDD, and dump the cards each night, that's 11.5 hours of recording per day just on one camera. Unfortunately, the Aiptek camera won't operate while it's charging, or I'd be able to run it all day from in the car.
Anyway, bring your cameras and be prepared to make copies of everything when you get home! See your name in the production credits of the first 48hrs of Tri-State DVD! If I don't make a full-on DVD this year, I'd still like to archive everyone's videos for use in future 48hrs DVDs.
Also, anyone who still has raw video files from previous events, please PM me! I'd like to compile something before this year's event, to show on the DVD player at our Holiday Inn reception room.
Edit: Oh, and for those interested, the 720p Aiptek camera is selling at Target for $88! It only has 1GB of internal memory, but I think it can take up to 32GB (maybe 64) SDHC cards. You get about 30 mins recording per GB. They have a full-on 1080p with 2x zoom for about $135, IIRC. If I buy a second cheap one, I might get the 1080p, but I'll probably end up spending money on a good, full-feature unit like the Samsung or Sony. The cheapies will be for strapping to the outside of the car, while the good one will be for hand-held and tripod-mount in more safe environments.
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